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	<title>Comments on: The Blue Jays Have Handled the Roberto Osuna Situation Badly</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick Cashman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrick Cashman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2018 09:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not only should Atkins not rescind his comments from last week, but Atkins should have appealed the senseless 75 game suspension and instead asked for a 30 game suspension like Chapman got.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only should Atkins not rescind his comments from last week, but Atkins should have appealed the senseless 75 game suspension and instead asked for a 30 game suspension like Chapman got.</p>
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		<title>By: Johny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jul 2018 01:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well there is always the chance he is not guilty. I found this a couple of days ago: 
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/osuna-ill-be-cleared-of-charges-by-surveillance-video/ar-AAyPFZF

But yeah I think Jays should wait a couple of days after his court session]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there is always the chance he is not guilty. I found this a couple of days ago:<br />
<a href="https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/osuna-ill-be-cleared-of-charges-by-surveillance-video/ar-AAyPFZF" rel="nofollow">https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/mlb/osuna-ill-be-cleared-of-charges-by-surveillance-video/ar-AAyPFZF</a></p>
<p>But yeah I think Jays should wait a couple of days after his court session</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Terry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let&#039;s wait and see what happens.  Really, if he did not say that Osuna was going to be the closer, what message do you think that sends to the other GM&#039;s.  If they are determined to get rid of him, then they will get nothing but low ball offers.  I think it&#039;s all smoke and mirrors, with the hopes that they can extract more  in a trade.  It may take Osuna playing the rest of the year, as GM&#039;s may also believe it&#039;s all smoke and mirrors.  If anything, I could see them trading him over the winter.  
Now that being said, no there is no condoning violence in any shape or form.  But at what point, is he to be considered having paid his debt to society.   Are people who make mistakes in the world of spousal abuse forgivable?  At least in the first instance.  We dont&#039; know what happened.  Did he just beat her all the time?  Did he come around a corner and see her with another guy?  Does it make a difference?  I can&#039;t answer those questions, but in our society, if you are convicted, and serve the punishment, you generally are given a second chance.  Think of the John Howard Society.  Should they even exist, or are people who have come out of prison unforgivable.  Again, not condoning physical violence in any way.  But if he has made a terrible mistake.  Makes amends, serves his punishment...then what?  Does he deserve a second chance?  I&#039;m sure the fans of the Yankees are not screaming for Chapman&#039;s head, despite his past.  I am open to giving people a second chance, but if they do it again, then that&#039;s it.  No more chances.  I think the only crime where I would not be this open to second chances is sexual assault or abuse.  Not to belittle physical violence, but it&#039;s just not in the same league with the damage a pedophile or rapist does.  I&#039;ll leave it at that for now......It&#039;s a tough thing to write about and I wonder if I truly believe what I&#039;m writing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s wait and see what happens.  Really, if he did not say that Osuna was going to be the closer, what message do you think that sends to the other GM&#8217;s.  If they are determined to get rid of him, then they will get nothing but low ball offers.  I think it&#8217;s all smoke and mirrors, with the hopes that they can extract more  in a trade.  It may take Osuna playing the rest of the year, as GM&#8217;s may also believe it&#8217;s all smoke and mirrors.  If anything, I could see them trading him over the winter.<br />
Now that being said, no there is no condoning violence in any shape or form.  But at what point, is he to be considered having paid his debt to society.   Are people who make mistakes in the world of spousal abuse forgivable?  At least in the first instance.  We dont&#8217; know what happened.  Did he just beat her all the time?  Did he come around a corner and see her with another guy?  Does it make a difference?  I can&#8217;t answer those questions, but in our society, if you are convicted, and serve the punishment, you generally are given a second chance.  Think of the John Howard Society.  Should they even exist, or are people who have come out of prison unforgivable.  Again, not condoning physical violence in any way.  But if he has made a terrible mistake.  Makes amends, serves his punishment&#8230;then what?  Does he deserve a second chance?  I&#8217;m sure the fans of the Yankees are not screaming for Chapman&#8217;s head, despite his past.  I am open to giving people a second chance, but if they do it again, then that&#8217;s it.  No more chances.  I think the only crime where I would not be this open to second chances is sexual assault or abuse.  Not to belittle physical violence, but it&#8217;s just not in the same league with the damage a pedophile or rapist does.  I&#8217;ll leave it at that for now&#8230;&#8230;It&#8217;s a tough thing to write about and I wonder if I truly believe what I&#8217;m writing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Findlay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Findlay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 19:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not a fan of asskisser but having said that....Osuna in every court in North America is innocent until proven guilty...
Then if guilty...guilty of WHAT....then regardless he is entitled to a second chance....none of us can lay claim to have not made mistakes in our lifesspan YOU SHOULD GO HAVE A LONG LOOK IN A MIRROR AND ASK YOURSELF IF HE WAS YOUR SON WOULD YOU BE THE HANGMAN FOR HIM AS YOU ARE FOR OSUNA...ITS EASY TO BE RIGHTEOUS MUCH HARDER TO BE FORGIVING....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a fan of asskisser but having said that&#8230;.Osuna in every court in North America is innocent until proven guilty&#8230;<br />
Then if guilty&#8230;guilty of WHAT&#8230;.then regardless he is entitled to a second chance&#8230;.none of us can lay claim to have not made mistakes in our lifesspan YOU SHOULD GO HAVE A LONG LOOK IN A MIRROR AND ASK YOURSELF IF HE WAS YOUR SON WOULD YOU BE THE HANGMAN FOR HIM AS YOU ARE FOR OSUNA&#8230;ITS EASY TO BE RIGHTEOUS MUCH HARDER TO BE FORGIVING&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sovtechno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sovtechno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops sorry didn&#039;t mean to reply. Meant that as top level comment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops sorry didn&#8217;t mean to reply. Meant that as top level comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sovtechno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sovtechno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 18:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Presumption of innocence is not a charitable act. You would do well to remember that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Presumption of innocence is not a charitable act. You would do well to remember that.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[david]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2018 15:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He has not been found guilty yet. He has pleaded not guilty. Even in Trump’s America, one is innocent until found guilty. That is certainly true in Canada.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has not been found guilty yet. He has pleaded not guilty. Even in Trump’s America, one is innocent until found guilty. That is certainly true in Canada.</p>
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