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	<title>Comments on: Why Randal Grichuk Means the Blue Jays Should Trade Kevin Pillar</title>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You guys have been proven all wrong. Randall grischuck is a triple a minor leager at best. Terrible hitter. Hernandez should be playing full time in right but will probably be sent down again after showing us for the third time he is an improveted version of Jose Bautista . Send .087 hitter grischuck down or trade him
 Give the full time job in rf to Hernandez who is proving to be one of the most condistant and talented New comers in the league. Rookie of year contender if allowed to play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys have been proven all wrong. Randall grischuck is a triple a minor leager at best. Terrible hitter. Hernandez should be playing full time in right but will probably be sent down again after showing us for the third time he is an improveted version of Jose Bautista . Send .087 hitter grischuck down or trade him<br />
 Give the full time job in rf to Hernandez who is proving to be one of the most condistant and talented New comers in the league. Rookie of year contender if allowed to play.</p>
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		<title>By: pennymaster</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pennymaster]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 22:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You make a decent point about comparing CF Statcast numbers with those for corner positions. But a main point at the end of the day is that we’re going to have two outfielders who have horrific approaches to their at-bats: Sportnet’s Baseball Central Co-Host Kevin Barker describes that approach this way last year: “stepping up to the plate and, no matter what the situation, taking the three biggest hacks. That’s frustrating to watch, Jeff”.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a decent point about comparing CF Statcast numbers with those for corner positions. But a main point at the end of the day is that we’re going to have two outfielders who have horrific approaches to their at-bats: Sportnet’s Baseball Central Co-Host Kevin Barker describes that approach this way last year: “stepping up to the plate and, no matter what the situation, taking the three biggest hacks. That’s frustrating to watch, Jeff”.</p>
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		<title>By: K Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K Shaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2018 02:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, well I guess that plan is bunk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, well I guess that plan is bunk.</p>
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		<title>By: K Shaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K Shaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2018 00:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d go farther and say the team ought to trade the entire September outfield.

Package Pillar + Morales (+sweetener) to, say, the White Sox, for PTBNL.

Trade Pearce and Zeke to whoever for PTBNLs.

Flip Teoscar for a pitcher.

Then Sign Lorenzo Cain to play CF and Chris Young to be the short-side platoon in LF.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d go farther and say the team ought to trade the entire September outfield.</p>
<p>Package Pillar + Morales (+sweetener) to, say, the White Sox, for PTBNL.</p>
<p>Trade Pearce and Zeke to whoever for PTBNLs.</p>
<p>Flip Teoscar for a pitcher.</p>
<p>Then Sign Lorenzo Cain to play CF and Chris Young to be the short-side platoon in LF.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you comparing statcast 2017 data of Pillar in 2017 vs Grichuk in a corner OF spot? That&#039;s pretty misleading. I&#039;d expect Grichuk to have better catches playing an easier position. That doesn&#039;t suggest he&#039;s a better defender than Pillar. 

The only season we have a meaningful sample of Grichuk in CF is 2016, where he was average to slightly below average in CF. So I think if you&#039;re calling him a comparable defender to Pillar, that you&#039;re reading way too much into a small sample size.

Pillar is quite clearly the better defender, and in the 3 years both have been playing, has the better overall numbers. Grichuk is a superior hitter, though I would think he&#039;s closer to league average than above it given his one plus year was thanks to BABIP.

The thing is, I don&#039;t get why you&#039;d want to trade Pillar if you&#039;re aiming to compete. He&#039;s likely a 2-3 WAR player, and replacing him means putting a guy who is likely a lesser player in a corner OF spot (given you&#039;d move Grichuk to CF). 

I think there are a ton of flaws in your article, and ironically your ending comment about &quot;every marginal win counts&quot; is actually an argument in favour of keeping Pillar over trading him. The Jays aren&#039;t at a point where Alford/Pompey etc should be counted on to be starters and produce at the level Pillar is. 

And we haven&#039;t even talked about the return, or who you&#039;d replace him with, which is likely not enough to make a trade worthwhile, and not a player who&#039;d likely give you a similar floor/upside to 2018 Pillar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you comparing statcast 2017 data of Pillar in 2017 vs Grichuk in a corner OF spot? That&#8217;s pretty misleading. I&#8217;d expect Grichuk to have better catches playing an easier position. That doesn&#8217;t suggest he&#8217;s a better defender than Pillar. </p>
<p>The only season we have a meaningful sample of Grichuk in CF is 2016, where he was average to slightly below average in CF. So I think if you&#8217;re calling him a comparable defender to Pillar, that you&#8217;re reading way too much into a small sample size.</p>
<p>Pillar is quite clearly the better defender, and in the 3 years both have been playing, has the better overall numbers. Grichuk is a superior hitter, though I would think he&#8217;s closer to league average than above it given his one plus year was thanks to BABIP.</p>
<p>The thing is, I don&#8217;t get why you&#8217;d want to trade Pillar if you&#8217;re aiming to compete. He&#8217;s likely a 2-3 WAR player, and replacing him means putting a guy who is likely a lesser player in a corner OF spot (given you&#8217;d move Grichuk to CF). </p>
<p>I think there are a ton of flaws in your article, and ironically your ending comment about &#8220;every marginal win counts&#8221; is actually an argument in favour of keeping Pillar over trading him. The Jays aren&#8217;t at a point where Alford/Pompey etc should be counted on to be starters and produce at the level Pillar is. </p>
<p>And we haven&#8217;t even talked about the return, or who you&#8217;d replace him with, which is likely not enough to make a trade worthwhile, and not a player who&#8217;d likely give you a similar floor/upside to 2018 Pillar.</p>
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		<title>By: tgreg</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course the catch with every &quot;we should trade&quot; discussion (pun intended), is what kind of return could we get.  At this point tho, I don&#039;t think anyone is expecting more than a middling middle reliever.  There aren&#039;t many teams looking for a can&#039;t-hit CFer.  He might fit on a NL team as a 4th OF/late-inning defensive replacement ... on the other hand, he could fill that role here ... all Gibby really has to do is give the starting CF job to Grichuk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course the catch with every &#8220;we should trade&#8221; discussion (pun intended), is what kind of return could we get.  At this point tho, I don&#8217;t think anyone is expecting more than a middling middle reliever.  There aren&#8217;t many teams looking for a can&#8217;t-hit CFer.  He might fit on a NL team as a 4th OF/late-inning defensive replacement &#8230; on the other hand, he could fill that role here &#8230; all Gibby really has to do is give the starting CF job to Grichuk.</p>
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		<title>By: Steph</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steph]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article!</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although Grichuk does resemble in profile at least, another Cardinal Jays landed a few yrs back. Colby Rasmus, with maybe slightly better defense. If Jays are serious about not going all youth all in this year, then Pillar needs be dealt, and land a much more offensive OFer. My goodness our offense is mediocre. And our 2nd best hitter for me is Travis. How&#039;s he progressing? Hearing he is &quot;about to start running&quot;...love the guy, that&#039;s not very promising.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although Grichuk does resemble in profile at least, another Cardinal Jays landed a few yrs back. Colby Rasmus, with maybe slightly better defense. If Jays are serious about not going all youth all in this year, then Pillar needs be dealt, and land a much more offensive OFer. My goodness our offense is mediocre. And our 2nd best hitter for me is Travis. How&#8217;s he progressing? Hearing he is &#8220;about to start running&#8221;&#8230;love the guy, that&#8217;s not very promising.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2018 19:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would be very popular with me if they dealt Pillar. Guy could hit, if he only let himself chase only after strikes, but seems he&#039;s never going to mature as a hitter. Grichuk is (yet another) &quot;incremental&quot; gain...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be very popular with me if they dealt Pillar. Guy could hit, if he only let himself chase only after strikes, but seems he&#8217;s never going to mature as a hitter. Grichuk is (yet another) &#8220;incremental&#8221; gain&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[100% agree]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>100% agree</p>
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