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	<title>Comments on: What Ticket Sale Data can Tell us About Future Blue Jays Attendance</title>
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		<title>By: a_teel</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[a_teel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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The change showed up very early, as last year’s home opener average on seatgeek was $61, while this year’s, after the miserable 1-5 start, was $39&quot;
I don&#039;t agree. Look at:
 http://news.sportslogos.net/2017/04/11/mlb-unveils-2017-holiday-uniforms-will-now-cover-entire-weekends/

 Best regards, Arianne]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221;<br />
The change showed up very early, as last year’s home opener average on seatgeek was $61, while this year’s, after the miserable 1-5 start, was $39&#8243;<br />
I don&#8217;t agree. Look at:<br />
 <a href="http://news.sportslogos.net/2017/04/11/mlb-unveils-2017-holiday-uniforms-will-now-cover-entire-weekends/" rel="nofollow">http://news.sportslogos.net/2017/04/11/mlb-unveils-2017-holiday-uniforms-will-now-cover-entire-weekends/</a></p>
<p> Best regards, Arianne</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 22:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the overlooked reasons in this article is that brokers have about 20% more tickets then they did last year which has been the biggest reasons of the drop in value on the secondary market. More supply=less $]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the overlooked reasons in this article is that brokers have about 20% more tickets then they did last year which has been the biggest reasons of the drop in value on the secondary market. More supply=less $</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Shell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 21:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reflecting on a couple of twitter comments: I think something I missed (and Des may have been referring to) is that the real impact is when secondary tickets rise above or below face value.  If it&#039;s above, box office seats will be a better deal, so the Jays will sell more tickets until they sell out or run out of the seats people want.  If it&#039;s below, you&#039;d expect most people to use stubhub and not buy from the team.  For what it&#039;s worth, the vast majority of Dan&#039;s seats have sold below face this year, and it was about 50/50 to this point last year.  Lots more work to do to develop these usefully!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reflecting on a couple of twitter comments: I think something I missed (and Des may have been referring to) is that the real impact is when secondary tickets rise above or below face value.  If it&#8217;s above, box office seats will be a better deal, so the Jays will sell more tickets until they sell out or run out of the seats people want.  If it&#8217;s below, you&#8217;d expect most people to use stubhub and not buy from the team.  For what it&#8217;s worth, the vast majority of Dan&#8217;s seats have sold below face this year, and it was about 50/50 to this point last year.  Lots more work to do to develop these usefully!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Shell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also - the point was to nail the analysis, but to talk about how this type of research could be useful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8211; the point was to nail the analysis, but to talk about how this type of research could be useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Shell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan&#039;s face value was $61.  I&#039;m not sure how it&#039;s relevant, but hopefully that helps you.
Yes, the Jays make money on ticket sales.  But if you don&#039;t believe that the demand for buying tickets for tomorrow&#039;s game from the box office is influenced by the demand for the secondary market for the same tickets, than you won&#039;t believe this metric.  But, I&#039;m pretty sure those demands would be the same.  If the secondary market price is below face value (where it&#039;s often been this year) don&#039;t you think that will lower demand for tickets at the gate?
And it&#039;s Dan, not Dale.  :)  I don&#039;t actually know what you mean in 2B.
If we don&#039;t force topics on this stuff we&#039;ll never find any metrics to use.  I definitely disagree with you if you think the secondary market for tickets has no relevance to the Blue Jays ticket revenue or the level of fan interest.  But hopefully debates like this will lead to better information!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan&#8217;s face value was $61.  I&#8217;m not sure how it&#8217;s relevant, but hopefully that helps you.<br />
Yes, the Jays make money on ticket sales.  But if you don&#8217;t believe that the demand for buying tickets for tomorrow&#8217;s game from the box office is influenced by the demand for the secondary market for the same tickets, than you won&#8217;t believe this metric.  But, I&#8217;m pretty sure those demands would be the same.  If the secondary market price is below face value (where it&#8217;s often been this year) don&#8217;t you think that will lower demand for tickets at the gate?<br />
And it&#8217;s Dan, not Dale.  <img src="http://toronto.locals.baseballprospectus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" />  I don&#8217;t actually know what you mean in 2B.<br />
If we don&#8217;t force topics on this stuff we&#8217;ll never find any metrics to use.  I definitely disagree with you if you think the secondary market for tickets has no relevance to the Blue Jays ticket revenue or the level of fan interest.  But hopefully debates like this will lead to better information!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Shell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My view is that ticket sales dictate fan interest, and everything follows from that.  It was true as viewership followed attendance up, in a similar ratio, in 2015.  Corporate sponsorship is a very small percentage, and merchandise will follow interest.
I&#039;d also argue that in-season revenue in 2017 absolutely will influence decision made in 2017 about the 2018 budget.
When you say &quot;imagine the impact on merchandise sales&quot; this is what I&#039;m talking about in this article.  Not only are merchandise sales a small percentage of revenue, we don&#039;t know anything about how it&#039;s affected by a major star leaving.  We can only guess.  I get that your guess makes intuitive sense, but may also be wrong.  If Donaldson leaves, will we sell more Osuna stuff instead?  We could logically argue this for a while, but neither of us have any actual facts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view is that ticket sales dictate fan interest, and everything follows from that.  It was true as viewership followed attendance up, in a similar ratio, in 2015.  Corporate sponsorship is a very small percentage, and merchandise will follow interest.<br />
I&#8217;d also argue that in-season revenue in 2017 absolutely will influence decision made in 2017 about the 2018 budget.<br />
When you say &#8220;imagine the impact on merchandise sales&#8221; this is what I&#8217;m talking about in this article.  Not only are merchandise sales a small percentage of revenue, we don&#8217;t know anything about how it&#8217;s affected by a major star leaving.  We can only guess.  I get that your guess makes intuitive sense, but may also be wrong.  If Donaldson leaves, will we sell more Osuna stuff instead?  We could logically argue this for a while, but neither of us have any actual facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Des]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This Article was the definition of cherry picking data. It paints a picture that does not answer any of the questions stemming from the title of the article. 

1. What was Dan&#039;s face value? if he was making a considerable mark up would this not be something to identify. 
2.A. Jays as a franchise make money on ticket sales, not after market. 
2.B. This also takes attendance rather than sales. Your friend dale has been responsible for this shortfall by 20 seats.  

I get some of this information isn&#039;t at your disposal, but if you have to piece together an article to meet a forced topic, maybe another should be chosen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Article was the definition of cherry picking data. It paints a picture that does not answer any of the questions stemming from the title of the article. </p>
<p>1. What was Dan&#8217;s face value? if he was making a considerable mark up would this not be something to identify.<br />
2.A. Jays as a franchise make money on ticket sales, not after market.<br />
2.B. This also takes attendance rather than sales. Your friend dale has been responsible for this shortfall by 20 seats.  </p>
<p>I get some of this information isn&#8217;t at your disposal, but if you have to piece together an article to meet a forced topic, maybe another should be chosen.</p>
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		<title>By: kockney kid</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kockney kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 19:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Using secondary ticket market analysis is not obviously the only indicator of revenue trending. Although tickets are the primary source of revenue, media &amp; corporate sponsorship &amp; merchandise are also major contributors.
The &#039;pre&#039; revenue factors truly determine the business decisions a club makes, not the in-season revenue mix alone.
If the Jays decided to make wholesale changes which would move major &#039;stars&#039; off the team, imagine the impact on merchandise sales?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Using secondary ticket market analysis is not obviously the only indicator of revenue trending. Although tickets are the primary source of revenue, media &amp; corporate sponsorship &amp; merchandise are also major contributors.<br />
The &#8216;pre&#8217; revenue factors truly determine the business decisions a club makes, not the in-season revenue mix alone.<br />
If the Jays decided to make wholesale changes which would move major &#8216;stars&#8217; off the team, imagine the impact on merchandise sales?</p>
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